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    when i first found out we were heading to miami i told my hubby....i don't care what we do...as long as we go to joe's. (i am a crab lover and have never had stone crabs) i was told over and over this is a must. so on tuesday night we went....we were seated right away....which i was shocked because everyone told me to be prepared to wait. our waiter was great at explaining things. he did a wonderful job of telling us the differences and suggesting things. we started with the conch fritters and a shrimp cocktail. the fritters were very good, and you get a generous portion. i found the shrimp cocktail a little "wet". you could tell the shrimp were either pre frozen or stored for a bit to long on ice. they were ok. hubby then ordered the lobster and stone crabs and i ordered the king crab claws and stone crab claws. he also ordered the potatoes lyonnese and i asked for french fries with a truffle oil drizzle. i was a bit dissapointed in the size of the claws we got....we were told these were the large ones and they didn't seem to large. they were also not cracked cleanly. lots of little pieces of shell everywhere. hubby liked the lobster. same problem with my stone crab...small and lots of shell shards....and i didn't get king crab claws i got legs. i wish i had known that because i happen to love the claws more than the legs....but oh well. the legs were very good....better than the stone crab claws. i think the best part of my meal was the truffle fries....they werent on the menu but they did them as a special request. they were great. over all it was a good meal....i think if i waited a few hours and got that meal i would have been madder.

    everyone around us seemed to be enjoying themselves and all the food i saw looked good...but for me....i could have made that meal at home and made it better.
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    Thanks for the great review. I enjoyed reading it. Joe's is by far the oldest restaurant in Maimi Beach. The founder, Joe Weiss, and his wife, Jennie, moved to Miami Beach in 1913, where Joe worked as a lunch counter cook at Smith's Casino in South Pointe. This is before Maimi Beach was a city. Five years later they opened their own restaurant at the present location, where it has been since 1918.

    At first, they did not serve stone crabs, because no one thought they were edible. There was an aquarium at the time (near 5th and Alton) founded by Jim Allison (partner of the famous Carl Fisher) and the story goes that in 1921 a visiting scientist from Harvard brought over a bag of stone crabs and asked Joe about cooking them. Joe threw them into a pot of boiling water, and apparently the recipe has not changed since then. It used be 75 cents for a plate of stone crabs back then. The restaurant was later managed and expanded by Jesse, Joe's son, and these days by Jo Ann (Jesse's daughter). Jesse Weiss was also the first student to enroll in the Miami Beach Public School system (reportedly he was the shortest, so they moved him to the front of the line).

    Another famous Weiss, Rosie, operated an apartment building in South Pointe at about that time. She was very active in civic affairs, and was widely known as the "mother of Miami Beach" from about 1920-1970. Though no relation to Joe, they had something in common - both were from New York, and asthmatic, and moved to S. Florida for health reasons. As an aside, Joe found no relief for his asthma on the mainland (in Miami) and claimed it was much improved on the beach.

    In case you did not enjoy the crabs, try the chicken next time. One of our "regulars", Fred, says that is great. And Joe's potatoes have been on the menu since about 1918 as well, reportedly Jennie's original recipe (as is the Cole Slaw).
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    Default Joe;s Stone Crab ,Made better at Home and better

    Quote Originally Posted by nikko View Post
    when i first found out we were heading to miami i told my hubby....i don't care what we do...as long as we go to joe's. (i am a crab lover and have never had stone crabs) i was told over and over this is a must. so on tuesday night we went....we were seated right away....which i was shocked because everyone told me to be prepared to wait. our waiter was great at explaining things. he did a wonderful job of telling us the differences and suggesting things. we started with the conch fritters and a shrimp cocktail. the fritters were very good, and you get a generous portion. i found the shrimp cocktail a little "wet". you could tell the shrimp were either pre frozen or stored for a bit to long on ice. they were ok. hubby then ordered the lobster and stone crabs and i ordered the king crab claws and stone crab claws. he also ordered the potatoes lyonnese and i asked for french fries with a truffle oil drizzle. i was a bit dissapointed in the size of the claws we got....we were told these were the large ones and they didn't seem to large. they were also not cracked cleanly. lots of little pieces of shell everywhere. hubby liked the lobster. same problem with my stone crab...small and lots of shell shards....and i didn't get king crab claws i got legs. i wish i had known that because i happen to love the claws more than the legs....but oh well. the legs were very good....better than the stone crab claws. i think the best part of my meal was the truffle fries....they werent on the menu but they did them as a special request. they were great. over all it was a good meal....i think if i waited a few hours and got that meal i would have been madder.

    everyone around us seemed to be enjoying themselves and all the food i saw looked good...but for me....i could have made that meal at home and made it better.
    Please send me an invitation to your house for Stone Crabs,Mustard sauce Slaw,and Sweet Potato Fries ,looking foward to the meal.

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    rk--thanks for all that....i love learning the history!

    i enjoyed the crab....what i didnt enjoy was all the splintered shells. crunching shell pieces in my teeth was not fun. i do expect a bit or so with shelled seafood....but this was beyond that. it was like someone just smashed them with a mallet.

    i do not want anyone to miss-understand me....i am not slamming joe's. i was just dissapointed in the way things were handled. i ordered one thing and got another without being told. i probably would have still ordered it or just got a bigger order of stone crabs....its just not fair that they dont tell people up front. i think people should know that....

    many other things being delivered to others looked wonderful! but we didnt order that....this is based on what we ordered. i would definately give them another go around....i would go early and hopefully not wait again.....and try some of their other dishes.

    ergagit---i can't invite you for stone crabs...i cannot get them here in jersey...that is why i was soooo excited to be going to joe's. but if you stopped by last night we had chicken savoy pizza with a balsamic reduction drizzle and fresh mozzarella!

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    I had a similar experience with small tiny pieces of cracked shell inside the crab. I had to pick and hunt for the meat, and I had the large size. At $60+ per plate, I was a little disappointed and still hungry. Luckily, the gigantic sized baked potatoe made up for it, but anyone can bake a potatoe.

    When you get lobster or crab in the Northeast, you come away stuffed with meat. Not really so much with the stone crabs in my experience.

    I still think its a good restaurant, but for the price, I usually go elsewhere.

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    Unhappy Sorry you had an ir-regular experience

    Nikko,

    First for thanks for your great reviews!

    I look forward going to The Forge!

    Second, I have no relation or business interest in any of these resturants.

    That being said, I do, as RK pointed out, really like Joe's--especially the take out section. The chicken is great and very reasonably priced. Their turkey burgers and steakburgers, along with their breakfasts and desserts ROCK!

    You'll notice I didn't mention the Stone Crabs. Thats because I don't eat them so I can't comment. My wife and I have gone their with friends who have had the stone crabs and they remarked how well the shells were pre-cracked or whatever. Perhaps because it is near the end of season as you may know, stone crabs are a renewable resource. Only one claw is removed per year and the crab is returned to the environment. So, maybe its an end of season problem? I admit I don't know beans about crabs!

    But otherwise the food, service, etc. at Joe's have always been top notch to me!

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    Nikko, thanks so much for your review. Yes, splinters in the otherwise soft claw meat isn't a good thing. I've always heard mixed reviews of the place. Sometimes great, sometimes not so great.

    RK -- thanks for the history! Your knowledge never ceases to amaze me.

    Ergagit -- welcome and thank you for commenting!

    Fred -- I gotta try that fried chicken one of these days. I think a picnic at South Pointe Park with a bottle of bubbly is in order for me.

    I really want to try the stone crabs where they're caught -- very fresh with a cold beer out in Everglades City. I hear they're way less expensive.

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    Maria, thanks for the kind words. One of the things I like most about this site is the times you post about area history. Wonder if Gus will agree to a new section of the forum titled something like "History and Trivia". You really can't know which way you're headed if you don't know where you've been.

    I recently finished "Billion Dollar Sandbar" by Polly Redford (1970). An excellent and detailed history of the first 50 years or so of Miami Beach.
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    as we were leaving......we were walking a few blocks to get the local shuttle bus(thank you to this forum i knew about it.lol). i looked inside the take out area and was impressed with the desserts i saw.(i had my own little gourmet dessert bussiness for awhile a few years ago) i was really tempted with a few of the desserts....but we had plans so i didn't indulge. i was impressed with how fresh they looked....nothing worse than getting a rubbery mousse or filling that has sat for a few days! these definately got my attention....IN A GOOD WAY!!!

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    If you go there again (to the take-out) be sure to get a bag of granola (muesli). It's not clearly labeled but sits in clear plastic bags near the checkout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rk View Post
    Wonder if Gus will agree to a new section of the forum titled something like "History and Trivia".

    I recently finished "Billion Dollar Sandbar" by Polly Redford (1970). An excellent and detailed history of the first 50 years or so of Miami Beach.
    I'm a huge local history buff and I wish I had more time to read. I've never heard of that book! Great idea, RK!

    I've started a new thread:

    Local History and Trivia General Discussion Thread

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    I'm reviving this thread because History Miami is holding a stone crab event for its young professionals group, ages 21-35 on October 20, 2011. If you join the Flagler Society, the event is free at Joe's Stone Crabs, otherwise it's $25 for non-museum members and $40 for museum members. The basic membership for the Flagler Society is $75.

    Either way, it's still a good deal for a good cause! They'll be serving stone crabs, hors d'oeuvres and wine.

    More info here: http://www.historymiami.org/get-invo...professionals/

    And for a copy of the flyer, click the following link: http://campaign.r20.constantcontact....MJfUalyg%3D%3D

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    I love this place

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    well...hopefully hubby wins the trip again this year....and i will give joe's another shot. i did however master making the mustard suace at home and the truffle fries...lol. i will look for the granola this time around!! gotta go read up and see whats new in miami!!
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    Love this place!!! They have some yummy drinks.

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    Nikko,

    My first (and only) experience at Joe's was a bad one because we were served previously frozen crab..not fresh. In their defense it was nearing the end of crab season. However, I know many people who love the place so be sure to give it another try. I want to go again too!

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    I've never liked anything I've had there. A couple of lunches from the Take Away have been good, but greasy. I know it's a landmark and all, but honestly I think it's living off legend and atmosphere. Although it smells a little like a fish market, so I'm not even so sure of that.

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