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    Hi FrenchFryFairy!

    I'm so excited you got to go to Pommes Frites! Were they the best french fries you ever had?

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    Yesssssss! I love Belgian Fries ... I've been to Belgium and had them! And my former roommate in grad school was from Belgium ... he made them many times at home.

    And Duvel is one of my favorite beers.

    What is the name of that movie about a woman who had a frites truck? Do you know what I'm talking about?

    What about a food truck? That seems to be all the rage in Miami now.

    Or what if you made fries at Abraxas or the Abbey?

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    I think Abraxes would need a kitchen for that.

    And you can do refillable sodas in glasses.

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    And note that if it did well, eeeeeeeverybody would copy you (*cough*foodtruck*cough*). Believe me, I know.

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    Default Re: Would a Belgian beer and fries place work on South Beach?

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    And note that if it did well, eeeeeeeverybody would copy you (*cough*foodtruck*cough*). Believe me, I know.
    I actually have generation passed ingredients, so it'll be like coca cola and pepsi.
    They might have succes but won't get it right 100%.
    I'd just buy the foodtruck from them after a couple of years :p
    Last edited by Verm; 01-12-2011 at 04:41 AM.

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    I'm just saying you could piggy back on an already established business. Setting up a small kitchen may be easier than doing your own storefront. The Abbey has a tiny kitchen ... I wouldn't be surprised if Abraxas has one but just doesn't use it.

    There are restaurant businesses popping up in Midtown and Wynwood too that are very popular now, by the way. I wouldn't focus solely on South Beach though you would get more foot traffic there.

    By the way, the movie I was thinking about is called Spetters and is by Paul Veerhoven. One of the characters sells french fries out of a mobile home.

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    A food cart is all you need. Although you'd have to store your ingredients somewhere. I can see the long lines now! Call the city of Miami and see how much a vendor's license would be at a location like 13th and Washington, outside of Mansion on their big nights, Wed, Fri, and Sat. You'll make so much more profit than if you do it out of a commercial space.

    Did you know that a hot dog/pretzel truck permit outside the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC costs $425,000 per year?

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    I'm not sure if you can deep fry on a food cart ... the Belgian fries process is more complicated than just keeping a hot dog warm.

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    Carlos just posted a brief article about food trucks in Miami: Food Trucks Swarm Downtown Miami (Video) - Miami Beach 411

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    Default Re: Would a Belgian beer and fries place work on South Beach?

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    I'm not sure if you can deep fry on a food cart ... the Belgian fries process is more complicated than just keeping a hot dog warm.
    Yes indeed , the process is 'slightly' different.
    First we have to import the belgian 'polder'potatoes , then they have to be peeled , cut , fried once , fried twice..
    So it's actually a lot of work if you compare them with french fries. But that's the reason why they taste so good.

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    hietjen -

    Most fries in the US restaurants are fried twice, but they're usually not fresh. Most places (McDonald's for example) receive bags of frozen fries form a distributor that have already been fried once at a lower temp. That cooks the interior of the fry. At the restaurant itself, they do the second frying at a higher temp, which of course re-heats the fry, and finishes the frying process.

    So, twice fried french fries are not uncommon. The advantage you'll have is that your fries will be from fresh potatoes, rather than pre-fried - frozen - and refried potatoes.

    I hope you do this restaurant / fry place.

    I will certainly come in and order some!


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    You would not call the City of Miami to look into that. You'd call the City of Miami BEACH.

    And given that we do not have any pushcarts or anything here now, I've gotta think it's not legal here. I'm sure some douchey New Yorker who thought every business idea that city ever had would be the cure-all for every other city has looked into it and been summarily rejected.

    I say keep with your original idea. Limited menu. Beer. Fountain sodas. That's it. You'll do well.

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    Well also it's probably impractical and unsafe to lug around all the oil you need for frying in a simple cart. It has to be a regular kitchen or a food truck type situation.

    Maybe Burger Beast would let you start out in his food truck!

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    Default Re: Would a Belgian beer and fries place work on South Beach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maria de los Angeles View Post
    Well also it's probably impractical and unsafe to lug around all the oil you need for frying in a simple cart. It has to be a regular kitchen or a food truck type situation.

    Maybe Burger Beast would let you start out in his food truck!
    Hahaha I don't think he will, but I like the idea about the food truck. That way you could also work with events like UMF and have a spot on their property.
    But I think it's harder to sell belgian beer that way, and it's difficult to show the pralines should we do it with a belgian theme.

    Which reminds me, should anyone need something from belgium..
    We could visit a chocolatery here before we left for Miami

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    Verm,

    Is there any Belgian chocolate that does dark chocolate with hazelnuts? Right now my favorite is Ritter Sport a German candy bar. RITTER SPORT SHOP

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    He might let you do it for fun and promotion, if not long term

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    Default Re: Would a Belgian beer and fries place work on South Beach?

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    Verm,

    Is there any Belgian chocolate that does dark chocolate with hazelnuts? Right now my favorite is Ritter Sport a German candy bar. RITTER SPORT SHOP
    If i find something in that genre, I'll bring it but I was talking more about pralines

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    Default Re: Would a Belgian beer and fries place work on South Beach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maria de los Angeles View Post
    He might let you do it for fun and promotion, if not long term
    I'll tell him you said it was okay :p
    He already liked the idea of the place though
    cool guy

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    Christy how will he get it to you? Verm is coming to Miami ...

    I'm not big on sweets, but I wouldn't mind trying one of these famous pralines! Are they different than American pralines?

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    I'm not in Miami so unfortunately I won't get to have any pralines! I'm just curios if there's a nice brand of Belgian chocolate.

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