Miami voted #13th best city for singles

[MiamiRentsAlot]

Miami? Only if you are rich... I remember a date where I dropped near $300.00 to get a thanks for a fun time. NEVER AGAIN!!!

Welcome to the land of gold diggers! Be careful a lot of the girls are looking for a free ride.

[hmontaq]

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Welcome to the land of gold diggers! Be careful a lot of the girls are looking for a free ride.[/quote]

My point EXACTLY... Guys in Miami know this all too well. Back in the day we would go up to Boca to meet girls. Good ole' Club Boca RIP.

[Suzanne C]

Please Howard- Boca and WPB are the gold-digging capitals of Florida- even more so than Miami could ever DREAM to be...

With reference to your $300 date, a) were you trying to be flashy with $; b) where did you go/what the HECK did you order (combo question)and, c) did you not know of a less expensive place?

If c is your answer, you're in luck. Check this.

[Maria de los Angeles]

Boy, I see this thread is just overflowing with chivalry!

[hmontaq]

That lesson was long ago hense the Club Boca reference. Times were different up there. Miami has only gotten worse.

Sushi 75.00 2 clubs 60.00 drinks 50.00 Breakfast 40.00 so I over estimated but you get the idea. Liquid and Space were the clubs at the time. Quite a few years ago...

Guys know what its like to drop a few hundred in a night. Women will never know. Ask a girl to even pay half in Miami and see where it gets you.

Chivalry huh... That will get you run over in Miami or used as door matt. Maybe not you per se but the masses in this city will eat a nice guy alive. Ask me how I know...

[Suzanne C]

Well, along those lines I could offer up a dozen stories of jilted women- women who were led on by men...but since we're talkin' up gold-digging in this town, gone are the times when women were the face of gold-digging.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard guys say they 'stay with her' because she has money.

I don't think being shady has anything to do with being male or female...or even living in Miami.

It's just a different era. Your 'Boca' days dates were about fun times.

Today is about things, things, and more things...(that rhyme with bling)...FLING...ring...cha-ching!

2 Clubs $60!!!!! Man that was cheap. I don't remember Shadow and Liquid being that cheap...granted, I don't remember much from those days...

[Brice]

Singles.. yes we are every where here in Miami... ummm did someone say party?

[Tere]

Oh yea I paid and got a good lesson thats what I got... Being "owed" something??? Sorry to inform you but ask any guy if he takes a girl out and spends $300 he is looking for something. If he says no he is a liar. Im not saying sex exactly but we are looking for something. If we arent then its not a date... So how old are you because this is not news. Do a poll... When is the last time you paid $300 for a date? Uhhhh NEVER! Try those shoes on. They are pretty tight...

I just don't date men who need to spend $300 in order to feel like they're something, and who only value what they can get in return. I prefer nerdy guys who can have great conversations... and have good grammar skills...

[Tommy Vercetti]

Heheh! That's like me, Tere. But I tend to spend around $200 on a Saturday night out if I'm with a girl. I would figre Miami would rank a lot higher than 13.

After scoping out the female scene down here now that I've been here a while, I refuse to date any girls in Miami. I don't look for one night stands and it gets quite expensive dating a few girls at one time. The girl I settle down with will probably be from NY, NJ or Tampa and NOT from Miami.

[hmontaq]

See guys know how easy it is to go broke with women in Miami...

This is where the term "Bros Before Hoes" comes from. Why spend your time and money on someone who could give a toss when you have friends that are time and money better spent. When you loose big you start to realise.

All that being said you got the guys that are "Players" in Miami too. These guys got bad boy style and the gift of gab to meet the hotties and talk them into anything for their own agenda then bail to the next one. I know plenty of guys like this and girls love them.

I am glad you are giving nerdy guys a chance because they are the ones that need the most help in Miami. Dont go changin' Good women are hard to come by as Tommy said. I have a pretty nerdy edge myself. I like old Volkswagens and collectable toys. I have various Evil Knievels, An original Mr. Potato Head from the 70s and an Original Jack in the Box. But dont tell anyone...

[Matt Meltzer]

You guys are, with all due respect, a couple of fucking morons.

First off, there's this thing called thd $40 rule. As in don't ever spend more than $40 on a date (at least a date with someone new. Your girlfriend or wife, that's another story). That way you make sure you never get taken, and you never date a girl who's with you for your money. OF COURSE when you throw cash around like that they're gonna use you for it. But if they know there'll be no free rides, and they come back for date 2, well, that pretty much means they want to sleep with you. At some point.

How the f- are you guys spending this much? Seriously, if I didn't eat like such a pig all the time I'd NEVER excede $40 on a date. Sadly, I spend more than that on myself most of the time.

The point is, I've been dating in Miami for about 9 years, have never, EVER dropped over a c-note on a date, and have done quite well, thankyouverymuch. I think the guys like you two who blow a bunch of money and then get blown off are giving Miami girls a bad name. When you make it clear you are not spending money on them, it shows you have enough confidence in yourself to not have to use money to impress anyone. Seriously, guys, try going on cheap dates and see how much better your impression of Miami women is, and how much more success you have. TONS of guys throw money at these hot Miami chicks. But be the guy who says "Yeah, so I was thinking Tobacco Road and then maybe Jai-Alai," you're different and slyly confident. Trust me.

[hmontaq]

As I said this moron only did it once. But I can easily see how it can happen and I see other guys do it. I am glad you are doing so well because women in Miami dont like cheap guys but if you are pulling it off more power to you. Id like to see the women you are dating...

[hmontaq]

Love Tobacco Road by the way :)

[Maria de los Angeles]

Thank you Matt, you spared me having to write the same thing.

Not that there's anything wrong with a guy being super generous. But if he's spending money on a girl to get laid, that's not being generous and it's not a date.

(Although seriously, Matt, how cheap is cheap? Do you mean $40 per person? I can easily drop $40 just solo when going out with friends and we don't go to expensive restaurants ... just an entree and a cupla drinks.)

[Maria de los Angeles]

Howard, I think that "cheap" is relative. Simple, get-to-know-each-other first couple of dates can go far ... something like lunch or coffee or a movie.

I once went out with a guy who took me to the cheapest all you can eat sushi restaurant on Washington Avenue, complete with unflattering fluorescent lights and a loud TV playing sports. While I was not impressed with his choice of restaurant, I would not have judged him as "cheap" (at this point, I was just getting to know him), except that he spent the entire time talking about buying a luxury condo on Millionaire's Row and how he was going to have cocktails with his rich friend at the Portofino Tower on the following day.

It was pretty funny, actually.

[Wants2GotoFL]

This is going to be corny but.....some of the best things in life are virtually free. What ever happened to a nice bottle of wine and good conversation? Or a couple of coffees and a pastry?

Oh never mind. I'm sure I'm being the moron now.

[Suzanne C]

OBVIOUSLY it's personal preference and OBVIOUSLY there are women (in our town) who prefer a $200 bottle of wine from Barton G on Friday but personally, I prefer a few pitchers and some billiards.

I'll choose jeans and a t-shirt over having to shave my legs, choosing a dress, using an eyelash curler and scorching my hair with various appliances.

A nice dinner is cool but nice is such a relative term. $300+ dinners are for people who can easily afford them- like $40 dinners are easy for people like Matt and I. It's a doable amount to spend, or 'lose' depending upon your point of view.

If you want to act as if you have money, then play the part completely. People with $ will not have ANY complaints after a dinner with reference to how much they spent (unless the food or service was bad) just 'cuz the company was bad.

Also guys, if what you're looking for is a little action in return for your spending, hookers are WAAAAAAAAAAAY cheaper than $300. Heck- they're cheaper than $40.

[Tommy Vercetti]

Hey Matt. I would agree that I may be foolish in some of these situations. However, I like to show a girl a good time. I took girls out to nice places when I lived in NY too. Then later on after a couple of dates, we went to cheaper places and kept it casual. I guess I work backwards.

Where do you find these down to earth non materialistic girls you speak of? Because where I live, they don't exist at all!

[Matt Meltzer]

I forget sometimes that not everyone knows my sense of humor, so thank you guys for not firing back after I called you morons. I mean it in the nicest possible way.

The girls I've dated here are all good looking, some hotter than others but never one that you wouldn't want to be seen with in public. Not models, but they're a pain in the ass for a lot of reasons other than money.

And, yeah, Maria, I did mean $40 for both. Like I said, it's pretty much impossible for me to do since I eat so much, so I always have to get appetizers and a large entree and often dessert. But if you take a girl to a mid-range restaurant, forgo appetizers (a girl will NEVER order one if you don't), and alcohol and also pass on dessert, it's easy to do.

Leykis suggests actually eating before you go on the date so that you can just order a soup and salad (since a girl will also NEVER order more food than you), but even when I do that I eat three courses.

[Tere]

If I go on a date with a guy and we don't have dessert, he's done. No second date.

Oh, and I've ordered and eaten more than a guy (seeing as how he had a salad, that was easy to do). I don't see why you just wouldn't eat based on hunger and nothing else.