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    Hi Housemusic!

    I agree with Jess & Ingrid, West Ave in South Beach would probably be the best location for you; they have really developed that area to be walkable, with everything you need close by.

    The 2 best gyms in South Beach are probably Crunch and Equinox. Crunch has great classes and lots of "muscle-heads" and Equinox is more up-scale.

    Regarding the % of Latins in Miami Beach, while the figures may show 53%, those are only the ones counted; I'm sure it does not consider residents living under the radar illegally, and would figure the number to be much higher.

    Many people are 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics and they are American; they typically don't run around with a machismo attitude, like 1st generation may.

    Midtown is also a great recommendation but there is no Publix or Whole Foods close by, and outside the "walls" of midtown, it is still pretty seedy. Midtown is located across the 41st street bridge, just west of US1. I don't think you will find exactly what you are looking for there. When I lived in that area, I drove to South Beach everyday to go to the gym, and work. While it was close, when there are major events in town, the traffic can be a bit much, and if you can afford to live in South beach, why not? The beach is there!!

    You mentioned not liking people from Miami, but honestly, that doesn't make sense because most people here are from somewhere else. And many of the people that are actually FROM Miami, are nice people.

    Ingrid is right about honesty in people but I wonder if it is a cultural thing versus a Miami thing. People would rather lie to your face than be straight up, so as to avoid conflict or hurt your feelings. Gus has mentioned he notices this to be a big difference between Miami and LA. You will learn (hopefully quickly) how to read between the lines.

    I have lived here for 17 years and had a hard time feeling comfortable for the first 10 years. I moved 10 times in 12 years trying to find the best part of the city for me. Now that I have found it, I have stayed put. I was young so hopefully it won't take someone who is more settled in life as many moves as it took me.

    Good luck with whatever decision you make and we will be here to assist you along the way!
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    As an Uruguayan, I suspect you have a penchant for empanadas.

    The Versailles on Venice is superior to the Versailles here in Miami. These actually are two different businesses. Nothing however beats Empanadas Argentina further East on Venice near La Cieniga. You will however find empanadas on practically every block in Miami.

    Regarding the hispanic demos you experience in LA...it's a different ballgame over here. You're exchanging Mexico/Central America influences for Cuban and South American ones. I personaly miss the Mexican aspect, others I know do not. I'll even venture and say the hispanicity of Miami is more white and more pleasant to the eyes. Say good bye to the Mara Salvatrucha for me.


    When you planning to move ?

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    Actually, there's a Publix on Biscayne and 40-something, and another one on Biscayne and 19th St.

    MidTown shops has a Target, Marshalls and Ross all next to each other. Not sure if that makes sense from an economic point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rk View Post
    Take a look at the south pointe (i.e. south of fifth) neighborhood. I think you'll like it more than West Ave/Alton Rd.
    What makes you say that rk? Only as I have lived in both areas, and even though SoFi is quaint and quiet, I do prefer West Ave.

    And yes, I am a GIRL! So mine is female perspective too lol.

    Everyone on SoBe is equal when you asked about men vs women. I would not discount Europeans as a minority with no effect on the population, a LOT of people here are European. But the real vibe of SoBe is that everyone is equal, everyone is the same, no one was here first. Everyone arrived from elsewhere so everyone belongs. That's why I like it.
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    What makes you say that rk?
    He's looking for tenants in his many idle Apogee units.
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    We've been on Bay near Lincoln for 5 yrs now and love it. Moved a block over from West actually which was nice but Bay is quieter/calmer/less traffic. (Although I HATE the Flamingo, the rest of the street is great!) They're doing some work along the canal adding walkways at the moment, and great restaurants are around - Yardbird, AltaMare, Suviche coming soon, Lime, Jimmyz Kitchen, Olivers, Sardinia, Pubbelly/Barcelonetta, Burger/Beer, La Folie, Doraku, Haven etc. Movies, like 10 banks, and Publix/Fresh Market within walking distance and around 19th/20th there's a huge construction projecting nearing completion with a ton of storefronts. We do love SoFi and are there pretty frequently but it's much more convenient to everything up on Bay/West. Pretty much walk to 90% of what you need.

    I really like the Waverly and 1br's start at 1800 last time I checked, so that may be an option. Cute little dog park out front and it's on a very chill/quiet corner but still near everything.

    I agree a new/modern smaller building will get you the most for your $ (unless you need/want a doorman and all amens)

    Feel free to pm me if you have any questions
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    I'm starting to love this forum!
    I was so skeptical when I first posted, did not expect much more than one or two people to answer.
    And here I am, reading and re-reading each of your answers...taking notes, and going over to google maps!
    Will definitely get back to you again tomorrow...

    Blackford, you crack me up! What's Mara Salvatrucha? Mexican gang? Porn stars?
    For the record, I was born in Uruguay, on the 4th of july! My father is Italian and my heart is 100% American.
    I love In/Out and have a penchant for pizza and pasta, so feel free to recommend good Italian places!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    What makes you say that rk?
    Well, Blackford knows something I don't, but here are some reasons housemusic may prefer south pointe over west ave:

    (1) Smaller buildings vs anonymous high rises
    (2) Quieter streets with less traffic. Less noisy.
    (3) More trees.
    (4) More upscale (caution: not all buildings are upscale)
    (5) Closer to beach
    (6) Closer to South Pointe Park
    (7) More like Venice Beach (than west ave)

    The main downsides (compared to west ave) are lack of view (from the smaller buildings) and higher rents (for comparable space).

    Not sure if it was discussed above, but the Flamingo Park neighborhood would be my second choice after south pointe (assuming one stays in south beach). It's a more gritty version of south of fifth.

    That said, there are many other areas outside south beach that are worthy of consideration, many have been mentioned already I think. Liking a place more or less is like buying clothes, everyone has a different view.

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    Dear Ingrid,
    Thank you for your thoughtful post! I love your personal insight.
    My office is located on Washington and 5th. I always go to the gym after work, around 6.30pm. I've narrowed down my choices to these gyms: Crunch, David Barton, Equinox. All are within a short driving distance, or even walking for Equinox.
    By the way Brikam Yoga is a huge trend in LA because it's effective and you can see results. However I follow a bodybuilding routine as I am quite skinny. I need to put some muscle on these bones so all my time is spent in the weight room..and drinking protein shakes LOL.
    Yes, I like dancing and I am passionate about electronic and house music...Winter Music Conference here I come!
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    Dear cockerspaniellelove,

    I checked out The Flamingo, and it looks good online.
    Nice amenities, convenient to the office on Washington and 5th, security building, and one bedrooms with stainless steel appliances and inside laundry available for $ 1600.

    Couple of questions...why do you hate the Flamingo? Can you provide the top 3 reasons I should not move there?
    Also, what is the extent of the construction project and when will it be completed?

    Lastly, I googled The Waverly but it is in Ft. Lauderdale, way too far from work.

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    The Waverly is on Bay (address 1330 West, entrance on Bay) next to the Flamingo. You must have been looking at some different Waverly Here's their site (there are usualy more apts on craigslist or through mls/brokers than the actual building lists. http://thewaverlysouthbeach.com/) I've seen a few 1br's at $1800, $2000 which I think is the lowest they go. Depends on the floor, view, size as usual. I think someone from this board bought a unit there a while back - can't remember though.

    Stay away from Flamingo, they make it seem great but it's a nightmare. I cringe when I walk my dog past. You can find tons of stories online. Horrible, shady management, most apts are outdated with ugly decor and carpet, overused appliances/kitchens. Most are old - there are some updated ones, but at those prices you can get a better building without all the drama! Just tons of issues in every area, very difficult management, TONS of obnoxious kids and travelers, noisy, dirty, shady stuff going on at night - and the list goes on. It is a mess outside, a mess inside, just a mess all around. People don't pick up after their dog and the cops are there constantly for random issues. I have never heard as many complaints and horror stories as I have about this place. Plus its HUGE - unless you're a cheesey, 20 year old with no responsibilities and there to party - you will be over it in 3 seconds. I know 3 people who have had issues with parking and their cars, and one who had to move b/c it was so loud at night she couldn't sleep. I remember someone telling me there was actual piss and puke in a hallway (which I'm sure is not so uncommon for there!)

    The construction project is not near anywhere you would move - its along the canal. I just mentioned it b/c it will be an improvement to the area.
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    Hello rk,

    The office is located on Washington and 5th.
    I've been on google maps for a while and the location you mention, South Point, is also convenient.
    In fact, I don't mind driving as far as 71st for the perfect home!

    Based on the comments from this forum I've been concentrating my research on the West End and Alton Road areas.

    With regards to your list, here are my comments:

    (1) Smaller buildings vs anonymous high rises - I prefer smaller buildings if they have all the amenities, must have laundry inside unit, central AC, cable, pool, spa, and not be crowded. Less habitants per square feet!

    (2) Quieter streets with less traffic. Less noisy. - Very important to me, I want to feel insulated and far from Lincoln Rd, Ocean Av, etc. Even if Im only a few blocks away!

    (3) More trees - Very important to me, I love hearing birds singing

    (4) More upscale (caution: not all buildings are upscale) - I can go as upscale as $ 2000 per month will get and not a dime above

    (5) Closer to beach - somewhat important

    (6) Closer to South Pointe Park - not important, mostly because i don't know about it.

    (7) More like Venice Beach (than west ave) - in what sense? some aspects of Venice Beach are scary.

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    Hi Jess,
    I really like your comments about South Beach!
    It sounds like LA, where everyone came from somewhere else, so everyone belongs and everyone is equal regardless of gender.
    Only the very beautiful or the very rich stand out. The rest, we are all the same every day people trying to make a good life for ourselves. Now, that's a concept I can live with!

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    South Pointe is most convenient to your office but not to 80% of "life" - depends on what you prefer. There are a handful of nice restaurants, bars, and a Publix/small shopping center, and the park there but not much else.

    Only down side to the West Ave area is further from beach, but its still walkable (15-20 mins) or bike able (5 mins) so not a big deal.

    When we lived on West we had a balcony that looked onto the street, which was ok but it was all cars zooming by. Now on Bay there is some grass/trees and 95% less traffic. The side streets between the avenues are more calm and homey feeling than being right on West.

    Just looked at the recent rentals list on the Waverly site, a bunch of 1br's went for 1750 to 2000 - around 800 sq feet. Would be worth keeping an eye on.

    Image search - some good pics of the building, grounds, some apts

    https://www.google.com/search?q=wave...w=1366&bih=601
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    Quote Originally Posted by rk View Post
    (1) Smaller buildings vs anonymous high rises
    (2) Quieter streets with less traffic. Less noisy.
    (3) More trees.
    (4) More upscale (caution: not all buildings are upscale)
    (5) Closer to beach
    (6) Closer to South Pointe Park
    (7) More like Venice Beach (than west ave)
    Hmm, the way you put that rk, I think if I were in housemusic's shoes I'd consider South of Fifth, since she will be having a car and her budget allows for a higher rent. I personally would have to do my groceries and all other errands by bike, so West Ave would be truly convenient. But when you have a car it doesn't make much of a difference if the store is five or fifteen blocks away. You'd be getting everything at once and therefore drive, not walk there anyways.

    All of the points mentioned in favor of SoFi are very true, and exactly what I'd be looking for in a place. I would want the beach and South Pointe Park close, and really take advantage of their proximity. Especially living in a quieter street, furthest away from Sobe's party scene, could easily be the key to more happy and content living. Noise is nerve-wrecking.

    SoFi is definitely not as lively as West. You see more people walking around on West Ave because there's simply more to do and more places to go. There's a Starbucks right on the corner of 10th and West for crying out loud!

    I lived in two different places right around the Flamingo Park, which were absolutely perfectly located. That was the throbbing Heart of South Beach, right in the center and equally close to everything. Beach, Whole Foods, Lincoln Road, yoga studios, the park.

    As far as high rises are concerned, I don't like them either. I wouldn't wanna have to use the elevator on a daily basis in order to get to my apartment on the 9th floor - I don't care how stunning the view from the balcony is. I like to feel rooted, connected to the earth, so either live in a one-story house or in a two-story building on the second floor.

    Regarding the Flamingo, yeah, it says "loud party" to me and I dislike it as well.

    But, as rk pointed out, liking a place greatly depends on what's most important to you, which are your personal pet-peeves, which your hobbies etc.

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    If I was ever to lose my sanity and decide one day to move to SB/MB, I'd definitely be following RK's advise about SoFi.

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    You guys, this is turning into a great discussion!

    As for those saying high rises on West aren't that personal and small buildings in sofi are more friendly, I may be the only forum member on here to have lived in both places. Don't get me wrong, sofi is great, and I enjoyed living there very much. But, living in a high rise has its benefits. What do you do in sofi in your 2 story art deco building when your neighbors are playing music at 4am? Or when there is a dog barking through the night next door? Living in an art deco building is all very well, but guaranteed not all your neighbors will have the same schedule as you. And if you are a 9-5 person, or someone who likes to wake up early and work out, this may not be the best fit for you. High rises along West have 24hr security who enforce the no noise disturbance law between 11pm and 7am. And art deco buildings have very thin walls unlike the concrete high rises. If you end up staying here to live and having a normal, non 24/7 party lifestyle, the little buildings do not work.

    At this point house music, all I can suggest is coming down to check out the areas yourself. And may I add, walking to the beach from sofi is still a few blocks unless you live on Ocean through Washington, which you won't as they are noisy streets with old buildings. So you will still have a few blocks to walk. Walking from West takes less than ten minutes and is probably only a few more blocks.
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    Housemusic, do you plan to have a car ?

    You'll soon learn that poses a potential different set of problems. That's usually a seperate negotiation and cost from just leasing a unit. Just beware !

    Some of the gals here get along without one, which is doable if you restrict yourself to SoBe. Most of us however will tell you that is not the way to go.

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    I think the main idea is just to avoid living near the Ocean/Collins/Washington corridor on the east side of South Beach. I used to live on Michigan Avenue, and it had all the small buildings and birds you enjoy. Meridian is also a beautiful street full of trees and upscale, smaller buildings. If you live near (or south of) Flamingo Park, it would place you in easy walking distance of South Pointe Park, as well as West Avenue, Lincoln Road, etc. My place on Michigan was a very peaceful area that felt like it could've been a million miles away from the craziness in the touristy areas.

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    @ Blackford, I plan to bring my car, a black BMW650, and I want to drive everywhere except weekends when I'd like to bike to the beach. As most Angelenos, I love nice cars, and dread walking over two blocks! What kind of problems do you envision other than paying for a parking spot at the building?

    @ Jess, you hit the nail on the head! To me, noise is a form of pollution and what you said reinforces my inclination towards a building with 24hr security and no noise disturbance law. I have a demanding job that requires a good night sleep and a clear head by 9.00am.
    A coffee place nearby won't hurt either! I have crossed out The Flamingo based on evidence presented by cockerspaniellove, and looking at The Waverly as I now have the correct location (thank you again cockerspaniel!).

    Loud neighbors and street noise are my top pet peeves!

    BTW I went there last month, but it was my first exploration trip so I only checked out the areas mid beach and above, not Sobe.
    Will have to visit again soon!

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