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    The idea of renting is not bad, assuming that the market will not change.
    In some neighborhoods the price range under $450k in single family homes represent the bottom prices right now. If the market do change even a little, these properties will be priced higher as well.

    Some property prices are already hit rock bottom. Long term investors and private people with cash and / or good credit are in paradise.
    In the mean time psychologists are making a fortune listening to people talking about how they feel regarding their upside down mortgage.

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    I think the housing thing is a moot point till you figure out what you're going to do about the dog.

    Suzy's right that no condo board will approve a pit bull (or possibly even a dog that large), and you may be able to buy a house on the main land and get the dog in - but it's guaranteed that someone will rat you out. Or, if your PB runs off and mauls someone - forget it. Euthanized and all over the 6 p.m. news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tere
    I think the housing thing is a moot point till you figure out what you're going to do about the dog.

    Suzy's right that no condo board will approve a pit bull (or possibly even a dog that large), and you may be able to buy a house on the main land and get the dog in - but it's guaranteed that someone will rat you out. Or, if your PB runs off and mauls someone - forget it. Euthanized and all over the 6 p.m. news.
    You can also end up having to pay a hefty fine. There have been too many stories about pitbull attacks. It's a shame, because I have met some very sweet ones. I'm a dog lover myself and the last thing I want to do is tell someone they can't have their dog with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria de los Angeles
    Niko, I don't know about price range, but mid-beach is the area within the city limits of Miami Beach with the most single family homes. South Beach proper is mostly buildings, with the exception of the Venetian Causeway and the islands off the Macarthur causeway.

    North Beach is mixed house/buildings but some of it is kind of ghetto and old. In between Bal Harbour is a mixed house/buildings village called Surfside which is a little nicer than North Beach.

    I knew someone who lived in mid-beach who had a pit bull. Mind you, he was always nervous to be found out and walking on egg shells. He had a small house with a yard and never took the dog out.

    I agree with Gus on the suggestion of renting for a year and then deciding where you want to live. It seems that with your career you can be pretty flexible. Miami is a HUGE sprawling city.
    Yea I am definitely not going to rent. You figure my rent is going to be 1300-1500 a month, utilities, etc etc etc. That is a 20K loss in a year. I can always sell, but that is why I plan on checking out the area in a couple weeks to get a better idea of things. Or maybe if someone is looking for a roommate I can work something out, but I will only reside for a month.


    Thank you for the housing overview and your help, I appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloire
    The idea of renting is not bad, assuming that the market will not change.
    In some neighborhoods the price range under $450k in single family homes represent the bottom prices right now. If the market do change even a little, these properties will be priced higher as well.
    Some property prices are already hit rock bottom. Long term investors and private people with cash and / or good credit are in paradise.
    In the mean time psychologists are making a fortune listening to people talking about how they feel regarding their upside down mortgage.

    lol No doubt. You do not have to worry this market is only going to get worse, we still have another 2-3 years before we see any signs of a bottom. That is assuming we some how manage to overcome a depression. I will check out your website and give you call in the morning ( Well at least your morning lol )

    Thanks for your time and resources,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tere
    I think the housing thing is a moot point till you figure out what you're going to do about the dog.

    Suzy's right that no condo board will approve a pit bull (or possibly even a dog that large), and you may be able to buy a house on the main land and get the dog in - but it's guaranteed that someone will rat you out. Or, if your PB runs off and mauls someone - forget it. Euthanized and all over the 6 p.m. news.
    My dog breed receives such a bad rap for nothing. They are the most loyal strive to please breed available. It all has to do with the way they are raised - If you were beat, locked in a dark room, and starved ( most of the time worse ) what would you do? Not to mention that the only time they are fed is when they attack some kind of animal flesh and or on command. Just because this breed is favored by the majority of the low life thugs for unethical reasons does not mean they should be stereotyped or judged. You ever see a waste of life good for nothing should have been left on the sheets to dry thug with a golden retriever? Din't think so

    This dog could pass easily for a Mastiff, American Bulldog, etc etc etc etc - It really is not a big deal. Status is coming with me and will be treated no differently then if I were to have any other " legal " breed. What do you think is going to happen if someone rats me out? Some over achiever is going to knock on my door and I will then inform him/her that this is an American Bulldog. If he/she feels the need to take this further I will most definitely take it to the courts and win my case with flying colors. They could not DNA test this dog if they wanted too.

    Here is his Father - http://ironcrosskennels.com/males.php ( First dog on the page named " Disciple "

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    That's one serious-looking mofo. I don't know what the deal with pitts is. I have no personal experience with them, and think other breeds are just as scary, so there's not much I can say.

    In Miami, there were a number of pretty vicious attacks over a period of time that led to the law being passed. I know that at this point, the media is all over a pitt bull attack story no matter what, but I do wonder about that.... is the breed any worse than rottweilers, for example? Is it really that those poorly bred are the only ones who attack? Do they have something in them that makes even the gentlest ones turn?

    I'm just curious about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tere
    That's one serious-looking mofo. I don't know what the deal with pitts is. I have no personal experience with them, and think other breeds are just as scary, so there's not much I can say.

    In Miami, there were a number of pretty vicious attacks over a period of time that led to the law being passed. I know that at this point, the media is all over a pitt bull attack story no matter what, but I do wonder about that.... is the breed any worse than rottweilers, for example? Is it really that those poorly bred are the only ones who attack? Do they have something in them that makes even the gentlest ones turn?

    I'm just curious about it.

    It all comes down to the way they are raised. That goes for any bred of dog. I only recommend this breed for strong minded individuals that have prior experience and knowledge of implying a firm but loving leadership role ( non-abusive )


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    Speaking of the devil...

    Pit bull sends 4 people, 1 dog to hospital

    BOCA RATON, Fla. -- Four people were taken to the hospital after being attacked in Boca Raton by a pit bull who became aggressive and broke away from its owner.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/flor...ry/827950.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tere
    Speaking of the devil...

    Pit bull sends 4 people, 1 dog to hospital

    BOCA RATON, Fla. -- Four people were taken to the hospital after being attacked in Boca Raton by a pit bull who became aggressive and broke away from its owner.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/flor...ry/827950.html
    Oh my god, I do not care what you guys say, this is the funniest thing I have ever read in my entire life " The poodle's owner was concerned that the dog might attack her pet, so she threw herself over her dog to protect it " LOL!!!

    Regardless, that article means nothing without representation of the owner, living conditions, etc etc etc, the list goes on. That article is complete slander to the breed. BTW - The whole " media " propaganda route is really not the way to go. Especially when trying to prove a so called " flawed inevitable breed characteristic "


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    I agree Niko- it is unfair to punish the breed. The reason they are banned is because of their temperamental nature and the way they have evolved over the years. Unfortunately, they were originally bred to be attack dogs and the fact they are commonly used as attack dogs or in dog fighting rings does not better the bad rap. The irony here is that they are amongst the most loyal dogs.

    Case in point:

    The pit bull that my friend has is the sweetest, most loving dog I've ever encountered- even when Nick was bite sized and would smack her with a bat....that's not to say that she doesn't have to be held back by us when strangers knock at the door or strays enter the property!
    I thank her though- Trinity is her name. When Nick was younger, (who knows what would have happened) he approached the gate to the lake behind my pal's house. Trinity started barking so loudly that we IMMEDIATELY came out just in time to see Nick trying to pry the gate open.

    Heck, our country's first war dog was a pit bull. Pit Bull Facts vs Fiction

    Unfortunately, the liability issues are too much. They used to be allowed but only if you had mega, mack daddy insurance on your property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko
    BTW - The whole " media " propaganda route is really not the way to go. Especially when trying to prove a so called " flawed inevitable breed characteristic "
    Niko

    I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly - but I wasn't trying to prove anything. I found it interesting that the very topic we'd been discussing was in the news and shared the link. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko
    Quote Originally Posted by Tere
    That's one serious-looking mofo. I don't know what the deal with pitts is. I have no personal experience with them, and think other breeds are just as scary, so there's not much I can say.

    In Miami, there were a number of pretty vicious attacks over a period of time that led to the law being passed. I know that at this point, the media is all over a pitt bull attack story no matter what, but I do wonder about that.... is the breed any worse than rottweilers, for example? Is it really that those poorly bred are the only ones who attack? Do they have something in them that makes even the gentlest ones turn?

    I'm just curious about it.

    It all comes down to the way they are raised. That goes for any bred of dog. I only recommend this breed for strong minded individuals that have prior experience and knowledge of implying a firm but loving leadership role ( non-abusive )


    Niko
    in addition, pitts need alot of attention. They basically dont reach maturity until they are around 5 (IE puppy stage) and if you don't give them alot of attention, walk them, etc, then they can act out for that attention. Also, alot of people neglect their dogs, which doesnt help.

    My parents have a pitt, she is a sweety, but she is loyal to the hilt. She will curl up in your lap if you come over, but if someone tried to enter the house by force, i wouldn't want to wrecken with that.

    The other thing with pitts is their jaws are so much stronger that when they do bite, they can do alot more damage.

    But with that, I don't believe in breed specific legislation because people will just turn to other dogs, like american bulldogs or bull mastiffs to breed for fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko


    lol No doubt. You do not have to worry this market is only going to get worse, we still have another 2-3 years before we see any signs of a bottom. That is assuming we some how manage to overcome a depression. I will check out your website and give you call in the morning ( Well at least your morning lol )

    Thanks for your time and resources,

    Niko
    I am more positive about the future. Interesting article to read:

    "Market Forces Forecast a Turnaround on the Horizon
    It's beginning to look like our dark days in real estate are over. All the natural market forces permeating the housing market today are setting us all up for nice rebound in 2009. And once the buying begins again, watch out. It's going to happen fast.

    The reason I'm bullish on 2009 being our rebound year has to do with three irresistible market forces that are all coming together at once:

    1. Low Prices. Home prices in most major DMAs have dropped to the place where average middleclass couples with decent credit can now once again afford the payments on a $350,000 home. (See my previous blog entitled “Surviving and Thriving -Part II).
    2. Stimulated Economy. Thanks to Uncle Sam, average Americans in foreclosure are finding out that they may be able to stay in their existing home, with a refinance package that encourages responsible stewardship. Combined with other helps like GMAC lowering credit rating requirements for auto financing, Americans will in 2009 start to get back into the habit of buying things.
    3. Mortgage Rates. Mortgage rates are now at the lowest they've been in 37 years, which will make credit-worthy buyers and refinancers motivated to get that loan now, before rates go up again.

    This third point is seminal. According to the Freddie Mac Primary Mortgage Market Survey announced Wednesday, rates on mortgage loans are the lowest in the 37-year history of, according to a weekly report released Wednesday. The average for a 15-year, fixed rate loan was just 4.83%. Historically, Americans just can't resist getting home loans when the rate is below 5%. It's like trying to stop water from flowing downhill. Never in the history of our country, or elsewhere in the world for that matter, has there not been a jump in loans when rates are this low.

    The metaphors are abundant. Whether we call it swimming upstream against the current, fighting gravity, or sailing against the wind, most sports enthusiasts know that no matter how skilled, you can't fight the forces of nature.

    The same is true when it comes to business cycles. Every seasoned investor knows that businesses and industries are all cyclical—once the “gravity” of a market event takes hold, as the adage on Wall Street goes, “the trend is your friend.” Which simply means, “don't fight the natural forces in place.”

    I think the housing market and our entire real estate industry is going to find a Tsunami-like feeding frenzy in many markets in 2009, for these reasons. So get ready to get busy!

    Bill Riss, C.E.O. of Coldwell Banker Bain, Seattle, said it this way last week:

    “I clearly see that, by spring, we're going to see a significant change in the marketplace. Prices and interest rates are about as low as they can go, people are continuing to move to Seattle and the economy will improve soon,” Riss said.

    I love that point about people still “moving to Seattle.” America is all about moving-ever since Lewis and Clark and the gateway to the West was opened, Americans move like no other people in history. So homes will have to be purchased. Like gravity, you can't stop it. You just have to go with it.

    Geoffrey Thompson"

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