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    Thumbs up LIV Doesn't Let Down!

    As a forum reader/contributor I see many discussions regarding clubs. These range from use of Promoters, entry, dress, lines, cost, door policy etc. Much advice has been given by people with far more experience in the clubs than me. Nevertheless, I though it would be fun to undertake the task of looking at the club scene from the perspective of a less than 50 but older than 35 year old. Going with a group of friends (both sexes and ages from 28-56), out to have fun, enjoy to vibe, but not looking to 'hook-up,' were our expressed late evening goals.

    We choose to go to LIV as a best example of a typical busy nightclub. We were not disappointed we had a great time!

    Our saga started a few days before our trip, trying to contact a promoter. They may be of some help with some clubs but we DID NOT find that to be the case. One waited 3 days to get back to us only to say he didn't promote for LIV, another, who claimed he did, offered nothing more than the club itself. So we made reservations with the club directly. This brings us to the next topic, Bottle service.

    If your group is largely 35 or older, you need to get bottle service. Its that simple. Period. When we got there (11:45) the line to get in was quite long. Filled with people (3 to 2 male) in their 20's. My motley crew walked up to the reserved table line, saw the ropes snap open, and were taken back to our table--no judgmental looks, drama, only similes.

    Regarding door policy, I can, no doubt, see why this is something that irks many. The number of people in their 20's on line to get in (at 1145 and when I left at 230) is impressive. I can see how the clubs tries to keep the male/female ratio balanced. This makes sense from their perspective and a good mix was noted in the club itself. Suggestions for groups of guys in there 20's has been written in other threads and seem to make good sense.

    Once we were only the only 'surprises' weren't really surprises but wonderful attentive service from our servers, wait staff, and even security. When one of group was late, security graciously escorted me to the front so I was able to bring in our friend in VIP fashion. The head of security is a true gentleman.

    One may ask, what did this cost. Well, for an original group of 6 there was a 2 bottle minimum. This includes mixers, soda pop, water, and ice. The servers will pour your drinks for you if you wish. Bottle prices range from 325-500 and over. They likely vary with the night/event. We bought a 3rd bottle (not required by management but necessitated by our late arriving crew members) and were under no pressure to buy more or leave. The others were still there when I left at 230 As I exited I noted a considerable line outside (mainly male), trying to gain entry.

    Bottom line there were about 8 of us, we spent over $100 per person--it was not cheap, but we all had a great time. If I were in my 20's, there is NO WAY I could do this . But in the age group listed above, I'm not out 'clubbin' every night, having 'your spot' in the club enhances the experience . Later in the evening, when Lebron showed up, it was no big deal. We all had a chance to sit, enjoy the music, talk, txt, and dance if we chose-just as we set out to do.

    So, we all hear that Miami Beach nightclub experience is not to be missed. I strongly support that assumption and am happy to report that the people at LIV are first rate at delivering an outstanding experience!
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    Wow, they even let you take pictures?

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    Fred -

    Great summary, and great to hear you all had a good time. It's good to hear that the clubs can provide a positive experience.

    I'm not sure you have to get bottle service to get in if over 35 y.o. The clubs might be wising up, and realizing that the ones over 35 are also the ones who are more likely to have money to spend, and it would be against the clubs' interest to keep out those who more likely have the means to spend $$$.


    Thanks for the write-up. Nice job!

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    Nicely done FG.

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    But didn't you have serious issues with the Fountainebleau?

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    Cool LIV(ing) it up

    UTS- Thanks, it was a good time!

    Glenn, glad you liked it. Regarding the suggestion that 35 and older get bottle service, sure its not for everyone in that age group, for instance if Cathy and Janet would go together, they would likely not need it. But if you and another couple were to go with them, yes, you guys really should. If you recall Jess' thread where 2 drinks cost her $45, the cost of bottle service is in the same (though very high) ballpark. Plus, you avoid the crush around the dance floor (if you wish), have a place to congregate, keep your drinks and stow your stuff. It really comes down to an 'ease of use' issue for me. It's and adult version of those 'speed passes' at Disney if you will.

    Carlos. Dunno about the pics. I did see women taking pictures of themselves in front of that staircase where those dancers were. Also many people seemed to be using their cell phone cams. As for the fountain bleach, nothing has changed. I may be wrong, but i think MMG (LIV's mgmt) is separate from the ownership of florida fontainebleau. On a similar note, I still have good things to say about Scarpetta. So, If I had to stay in that part of Miami Beach, I have, and would stay at the Eden Roc.

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    Default Was it as much fun as when you took your shirt off at the ice bowl on national tv?

    Great report FG. I assume you went incognito in order to bring us the common man perspective?

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    I'm happy you had fun Fred, but I am still not a fan of Liv. No atmosphere in that club... coming from the UK where we have super clubs, Liv is not all that great. I guess we are spoiled in Europe.

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    Fred -

    Thanks for the reply. Adult Disney pass. I like it.


    Glenn

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    i wudnt go just so i didnt have to put up with gold digging chicks n guys in rent a suits throwing there parents cash round. that place shits me! im sure u get good ppl there but fukd if id deal with the attitude of the not so good that frequent there

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    Question LIV for today

    N E 1 can see croatbob's point. I just didn't run into attitudes or gold diggers perhaps I was "'hangin' with my peeps" (so to speak).

    Jess, I have never been to Ibiza. Closest to that for me would be a club in chicago during the '80's called The Limelight (a branch of the new york club of the same name). So I can't at all compare. I would be interested to know how you compare it to the other clubs in town such as mynt or any of the various opium group offerings!

    RK--I did see 'your' usual reserved table, on hold just in case you drop by, in a prime spot!
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    Glad you had a great night Fred and excellent write up and pics! I've had fun at LIV two nights but on another night the wait was just crazy, and we decided to salvage what was rest of the night and leave. I'm surprised for a group of 6 you only needed to buy two bottles. That's reasonable. My advice for anyone going to LIV:

    1. use a promoter or do bottle service.

    2. have a back up club if you get tired of waiting in line. Crucial.

    3. budget $45 for 2 drinks at the lobby bar.

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    We had The Limelight in London Fred! Back in the 90s... cool club in an old church... very goth on the outside.

    Mynt is tiny in comparison to Liv, it is a lounge, not a club. Liv is pretty big, but still only one room. At least it has a dance floor, as long as you don't mind dancing right alongside the tables.

    I guess it depends on how you like to go out. I can do glam no problem but I still prefer good music and crowd over who is who, who has bottles and who can get in... hence why Space will always win for me. Even the promoter there is awesome.

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    And I miss the limelight in NY! No scanners back then so I was 16 and out at a club!

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    Default Re: LIV Doesn't Let Down!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jess View Post
    We had The Limelight in London Fred! Back in the 90s... cool club in an old church... very goth on the outside.

    Mynt is tiny in comparison to Liv, it is a lounge, not a club. Liv is pretty big, but still only one room. At least it has a dance floor, as long as you don't mind dancing right alongside the tables.

    I guess it depends on how you like to go out. I can do glam no problem but I still prefer good music and crowd over who is who, who has bottles and who can get in... hence why Space will always win for me. Even the promoter there is awesome.
    still havent done space but always wanted to. its pretty much just a sat nyt crowd yeah? is it techno or house or a mix? i mite do it the weekend between wmc n mmc. have 2 mates ova from home then. whats cover n drink prices worth n what times is stop serving booze?

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    Default Re: LIV Doesn't Let Down!

    Quote Originally Posted by fredgarvin View Post
    As a forum reader/contributor I see many discussions regarding clubs. These range from use of Promoters, entry, dress, lines, cost, door policy etc. Much advice has been given by people with far more experience in the clubs than me. Nevertheless, I though it would be fun to undertake the task of looking at the club scene from the perspective of a less than 50 but older than 35 year old. Going with a group of friends (both sexes and ages from 28-56), out to have fun, enjoy to vibe, but not looking to 'hook-up,' were our expressed late evening goals.

    We choose to go to LIV as a best example of a typical busy nightclub. We were not disappointed we had a great time!

    Our saga started a few days before our trip, trying to contact a promoter. They may be of some help with some clubs but we DID NOT find that to be the case. One waited 3 days to get back to us only to say he didn't promote for LIV, another, who claimed he did, offered nothing more than the club itself. So we made reservations with the club directly. This brings us to the next topic, Bottle service.

    If your group is largely 35 or older, you need to get bottle service. Its that simple. Period. When we got there (11:45) the line to get in was quite long. Filled with people (3 to 2 male) in their 20's. My motley crew walked up to the reserved table line, saw the ropes snap open, and were taken back to our table--no judgmental looks, drama, only similes.

    Regarding door policy, I can, no doubt, see why this is something that irks many. The number of people in their 20's on line to get in (at 1145 and when I left at 230) is impressive. I can see how the clubs tries to keep the male/female ratio balanced. This makes sense from their perspective and a good mix was noted in the club itself. Suggestions for groups of guys in there 20's has been written in other threads and seem to make good sense.

    Once we were only the only 'surprises' weren't really surprises but wonderful attentive service from our servers, wait staff, and even security. When one of group was late, security graciously escorted me to the front so I was able to bring in our friend in VIP fashion. The head of security is a true gentleman.

    One may ask, what did this cost. Well, for an original group of 6 there was a 2 bottle minimum. This includes mixers, soda pop, water, and ice. The servers will pour your drinks for you if you wish. Bottle prices range from 325-500 and over. They likely vary with the night/event. We bought a 3rd bottle (not required by management but necessitated by our late arriving crew members) and were under no pressure to buy more or leave. The others were still there when I left at 230 As I exited I noted a considerable line outside (mainly male), trying to gain entry.

    Bottom line there were about 8 of us, we spent over $100 per person--it was not cheap, but we all had a great time. If I were in my 20's, there is NO WAY I could do this . But in the age group listed above, I'm not out 'clubbin' every night, having 'your spot' in the club enhances the experience . Later in the evening, when Lebron showed up, it was no big deal. We all had a chance to sit, enjoy the music, talk, txt, and dance if we chose-just as we set out to do.

    So, we all hear that Miami Beach nightclub experience is not to be missed. I strongly support that assumption and am happy to report that the people at LIV are first rate at delivering an outstanding experience!
    interesting i was there on saturday for cedric.. 2 bottle min.. interesting the menu itself says 3 bottle min.. but perhaps the reason you got 2 bottle is the location they placed your table away from the dj and upstairs by the back.. but i am happy to hear that you had a great time. and as i have said before..no i dont promote there..but a lot of people request help from me..so when i can..i do..all best

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    Lightbulb I forget!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks Jess! I totally forgot! There were like 3 distinct rooms in the chicago Limelight. Alll very unique, with different themes. It was also in an old, goth appearing building (church) and this was before the house music sound was born in the warehouse district of chicago.

    Fabs, my buddy, we were on the upper level (my choice) but we were right there at the dj stand, with scooter. You need some techno in your life broham!

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